“And I also have a friend, a paedophile, who is working very hard on making sense out of his relations with boys. These relations consist of, among other things, a large amount of nurture and support for these boys, a real caring for their welfare and growth. […] So what is the problem? Or more succinctly, what is the problem we are facing that warrants the construction of an issue about the relations between gay men and kids? […] For, anecdotes aside, one thing should be quite clear: gay men do have a wide range of relationships with kids, their own, their friends’, in ‘families’ and other social arrangements. That is the starting point in the debate, and it is from this point, our practices, that a political position can be built. And a new political position is needed for there are significant political struggles at stake. First, we have three legal/social questions to win: custody right for gay men and lesbians; the legal rights of paedophiles and their young lovers; and finally the sexual rights of children as a whole. Second, we have three issues within the homosexual movement and community: the support gay men provide the women’s movement and in our alternative child rearing practices and arrangements; the way we have set up the debate at present; and last the real meaning of childlessness. […]
“Cuddling, breastfeeding, bathing together, playing, kissing and fondling kids are immensely pleasurable activities for them and for us. And it is not uncommon to be sexually aroused by that closeness, that touch and that love. How different then is that gentle, tentative sexuality between parent and child from the love of a paedophile and his/her lover? […] The current paedophilia debate then is crucial to the political process of the gay movement: paedophiles need our support, and we need to construct the child/adult sex issue on our terms. […] Our new kinds of arrangements collectively create a new politics of child/adult relations. Is this a bit of gay chauvinism, gay pride, a fond idealistic hope? Maybe, but since when have we too regarded pride as a sin?”
▪ Gary Dowsett, “Boiled Lollies and Band-aides: Gay Men and Kids” Gay Information – A Quarterly Journal (Spring 1982) extracts from pages 35 through to 38.
The love between a parent and a child is nothing like a paedophile’s so-called “love” for a child. Paedophilia is akin to rape because it is all about power. How dare Dowsett write that “The current paedophilia debate then is crucial to the political process of the gay movement: paedophiles need our support, and we need to construct the child/adult sex issue on our terms.”! A statement like that is sick! Children rely on adults to make the correct decisions for them. Having sex with kiddies is just taking away their innocence!
What really scares me is how all the queers support him, the admins delete my posts from FB groups and I’m called stupid and hysterical, I supported gay people in fight for their rights for years but now I begin to question it, if straight person supports paedophile in language that indicates to me that they have shared same experience I would be appalled, but why all queer people I approach on topic go to abusive stance to protect the pedo supporter, does it mean they support his views, does it means that indeed queers do support paedophiles rights themselves?
Seriously a parent has no sexual pleasure from his child this is called incesed you moron
Anna,
Mich Mason indicated that the love of a parent for his child is “nothing like” what a paedophile feels for his prey.
However, you are correct to bring up incest here: that has already been flagged as the next front of attack against normative morality in some places, such as Germany in 2014. The UK’s The Telegraph has already reported that:
Where normative values are abolished, and when opposition to the continual revolution is merely arbitrary, everything is thrown into question and anarchy reigns.
After the Royal Commission into child sex abuse, how can anyone justify sex with children. I am disgusted with La Trobe as much as the heinous and wicked intentions of pedophiles in this country. This is why Safe Schools Coalition and its counterparts must be stopped. It is about sexualizing and grooming children; “children’s sexual rights”???????!!!!!! OMG
Dowsett is just another educated fool.
I can not believe that La Trobe University supports him.
Please tell me why this predator still walks around free and why he is so highly regarded and protected by those in authority. He openly promotes the sexualization of children and the taking of their innocence. Then has the audacity to compare it to the love of a parent to their child. He is beyond sick. And now he has his claws into thousands of children through this ridiculous safe schools program that has very little to do with bullying. It really scares me to think of what is being taught to them without parents consent. Maybe my son shouldn’t start school next year.
Dear Kerry,
Your frustration and anger at this hypocrisy is perfectly understandable. Perhaps the AltLeft’s next major battle will be the de-legalisation of home schooling. This issue is certainly a civil rights battle, but not in the sense that many progressives have been describing it; rather, it is a cultural battle which will determine both individual autonomy as well as parental rights vis-á-vis their children.
I’ve worked in Education and dealt with some of the Home Schoolers. Some are OK and do it because they have little other choice because of remoteness. Others, and a lot of others are just weird. We should treat home schooling with a great deal of caution. Not everyone can do it and not every SHOULD do it.
That is a valid concern. However, remember that universal, state and centralised education is a thing of the very recent past. Most if not all of the great thinkers of history went through what could be described as a form of home-schooling, or at least individual tuition (which is comparable to what many home schoolers advocate). What we have now is an abnormality.
No parent should allow their children to attend school, until safe schools is removed once and for all.
Kerry start a petition on change.org I will be the first to sign it. This disgusting dirt bag and his followers need to be stopped.
This is disgusting! You do not compare parenthood to pedophilia! This is so wrong and gross! Pedophilia is something that just isn’t right and comparing it to being a mother or father of a child is downright offensive.
One sick puppy that one.
After reading this – I am now afraid! IF the vote is passed, will young boys and girls in schools believe that we have given permission to pedophiles to have sexual relationships with our kids? How will our kids know that we don’t want this to happen to them?
The same way I raised my son and my daughter teach them to ask questions and not take for gospel what they encounter in school or within their peer groups and let them know no matter what the issue you are there to help them through it…make that a matra for them and never let them down
OK im not Australian Gay lesbian or trans Im a mom, after reading this piece of (literature) IM in shock Peados are what they are disgusting power and sex driven individuals, I know many Gay lesbian and other trans people and they all think the same Peados are a blight on the world how can any one class them as anything else ok Rant over
Many in the community share your disgust and anger. The problem here is the fact that an institution appears to be normalising these dangerous views, by shielding their advocates. In comparison, consider what happens to so-called “controversial” conservatives in the academy. The manner in which people like Dowsett are given cover while others like Andrew Fraser are hounded out of their teaching positions is a telling sign of the intellectual and moral bankruptcy of the Australian university.
I agree, and share Dr. Jordan Peterson’s view on this matter.
Reminds me of the scripture in the Bible?: Mark 9:42, “And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.”
And also a scripture in The Book of Mormon, Mosiah 29: 26-27, “Now it is not common that the voice of the people desireth anything contrary to that which is right; but it is common for the lesser part of the people to desire that which is not right; therefore this shall ye observe and make it your law—to do your business by the voice of the people.
And if the time comes that the voice of the people doth choose iniquity, then is the time that the judgments of God will come upon you; yea, then is the time he will visit you with great destruction”.
All good and well, but religious arguments are precisely what the radical proponents of this “reform” to legislate same-sex marriage are expecting, and what they rely on. While organised religion is an expression of transcendent Truth, it is simply foolish to use such reasoning in the present climate: this does not speak to an overwhelming majority of citizens, and many are frankly turned off by it. There are very persuasive civil-rights based and non-religious reasons to oppose the left-extremist attempts to redefine family and marriage, and we have covered a few here in the past. Advocates of Moral and legal orthodoxy must understand the atmosphere in which they are fighting Cultural Marxism.
University Professors have been brainwashing and influencing the minds of our children for years into believing things that are immoral, destroying family and society as we know it spreading communism and anarchy, and taking away our freedom of speech. There needs to be an enquiry.
There was, but conservatives being conservatives, the results were unsurprising.
“since when have we too regarded pride as a sin?” Well, since Biblical times when it was pronounced one of the 7 deadly sins – Gluttony,Greed Wrath, Sloth, Lust, PRIDE and Envy.